
Andrej Karpathy, a renowned AI researcher and former Tesla AI director, estimates that Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) remains approximately a decade away. During a recent interview on the Dwarkesh Podcast, Karpathy articulated a nuanced perspective, tempering industry hype with a realistic assessment of current AI capabilities and the significant challenges ahead. He characterized the current period as the "decade of agents," acknowledging impressive early progress but emphasizing the extensive work required.
Karpathy highlighted several "cognitive deficits" in current Large Language Models (LLMs), stating, "They don't have enough intelligence, they're not multimodal enough, they can't do computer use and all this stuff." He pointed out the lack of continual learning and the inability of LLMs to retain information across sessions, comparing their knowledge to a "hazy recollection" versus a human's working memory. This leads to issues like "model collapse," where LLMs generate repetitive, low-entropy outputs.
A significant portion of the discussion focused on the limitations of Reinforcement Learning (RL), which Karpathy described as "terrible" even despite being the best available method. He criticized RL's inefficiency, likening it to "sucking supervision through a straw" due to its high variance and the difficulty of assigning partial credit in complex tasks. He suggested that human learning involves a more sophisticated process of review and reflection that current LLMs lack.
Drawing on his experience in self-driving technology, Karpathy explained the "march of nines" concept, where achieving higher levels of reliability (e.g., 99% to 99.9%) requires exponential effort. He noted that self-driving cars, despite significant advancements, are "nowhere near done" due to the high cost of failure and the hidden human-in-the-loop teleoperation often involved. This analogy extends to general software engineering, where mistakes can have unbounded negative consequences.
Looking to the future, Karpathy envisions AI's role in education as transformative, aiming to build a "Starfleet Academy" that provides "eurekas per second." He believes AI tutors could offer personalized learning experiences, adapting to individual student needs much like a skilled human tutor. However, he stressed that the current capabilities for such an AI tutor are not yet fully developed, requiring significant research into how models can "think through the material" and maintain entropy.